New front brake pads - urgent !

I have Ferodos formulas on the front and they're awesome for a street/ occational track pad. Or Ferodos DS2500 if you want more performance and drive pretty hard normally.

I've got EBC Red Stuff front and back. They are an improvement on the Project Mu front and standard rears I had previously. The latest compound is a vast improvement on the previous ones. Everyone I know who has used them has been impressed. And they're quite a bit cheaper than DS2500... If going for serious track, the EBC yellows would be a better choice, but for a balance of road and track: red. Only thing I'd say is they they are quite dusty, but no more than the DS2500s.

Remember that I'm also running 315mm front discs.

I have Ferodos DS2500 and rate them highly. Mintex are good too. Greenstuff pads are supposed to be bad.. so i've always heard..

thanks Guys. It's funny how the EBC Greens have had so much bad press. I had the EBC Blacks (entry level pad) in my old car and they worked well - though I never took it to the track.

The latest EBC pad is called the YellowR. It's meant to be better than the Reds in performance yet has the initial bite of the Greens. They retail here in NZ for $376 for the fronts - damn expensive if you ask me! The Greens by comparison are $303 so not much better.

The Mintex 1166's I understand have to be retro fitted to your existing backing plates (a shelf ready option isn't available here people tell me). Dunno about you guys but the whole glue the friction material thing makes me nervous! I trust the factory process more. Time is getting close so it looks like the S15 will be fronting up with standard fronts and EBC black rears. I'll just go easy this time, and if the car won't stop going straight, flick it sideways eh!!

The current Reds were the last Yellows.

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The current Reds were the last Yellows.

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Ahh. That may explain why the yellowR's rate higher than the reds on the EBC quick ref chart. I had to confirm that the yellowR is not related to the regular yellows as these would be too hardcore for the street I'd assume.

They could've come up with another colour for the yellow R's eh to avoid confusion.

We only get Black Stuff, Green Stuff, Red Stuff and Yellow Stuff over here, generally.

i have DS2500 in the front.
Good pads. A bit dusty though.
Running these pads with white rims wouldn't be too exciting.

I ran with the standard front pads and they actually took a pretty good beating! My brand new EBC Black Stuff pads desintegrated in throughout the day until they were completed fried. I had to take my pads out and grind down the wear indicators to get home. Surprising they were so crap.

Many people swear the Mintex 1166's are gold. I went for a ride in a car with standard brakes bar those pads. The thing hauled up time and time again! I'm getting some made up this week so next I'll be investigating rotors as these pads will make the rotors the consumable items!

All I can say is that you weren't breaking late. If you were, you'd have got fade no problem on standard pads :nod:

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All I can say is that you weren't breaking late. If you were, you'd have got fade no problem on standard pads :nod:

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ok, busted. I wasn't leaning on the brakes like a madman. I was actually trying to preserve them as I knew I was only running standard pads. A combo of engine braking, compression lock and brakes was the go for the day. Once I could feel the rotors warping on light pedal pressure, I gave them some rest. But still, no sign of fade. Overall, the standard pads are of a decent spec - (for factory pads anyway).

I-nearly-bought-a-batty said:

Nicely said:

All I can say is that you weren't breaking late. If you were, you'd have got fade no problem on standard pads :nod:

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ok, busted. I wasn't leaning on the brakes like a madman. I was actually trying to preserve them as I knew I was only running standard pads. A combo of engine braking, compression lock and brakes was the go for the day. Once I could feel the rotors warping on light pedal pressure, I gave them some rest. But still, no sign of fade. Overall, the standard pads are of a decent spec - (for factory pads anyway).

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more than I can say for the EBC Blacks which expired (and being on the back - you can tell how much better the compound of the front must be)

:nod: EBC Blacks = shite.

Don't feel disheartened by that though. Its a regular occurence for the S14 boys over here to cook their rears when they're running Reds at track days... Porterfield seem to be the only ones which have, so far, consistently survived. Ferodo have just started doing some rear DS2500s though...

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:nod: EBC Blacks = shite.

Don't feel disheartened by that though. Its a regular occurence for the S14 boys over here to cook their rears when they're running Reds at track days... Porterfield seem to be the only ones which have, so far, consistently survived. Ferodo have just started doing some rear DS2500s though...

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Wow - even the Reds can't cope!

I'm now really going off EBC as a brand. I plan to fit Mintex 1166's to my fronts and perhaps 1155's to the rear. This is serious pad material and willno doubt eat my rotors. They actually custom apply the material to backing plates you provide. I've been a car having standard brakes bar these pads and they really work. i'll let you guys know how they go. Dunno if you can get them in the UK.

You aren't seriously going to get a miricle improvement from the back, regardless what pads you use, I'm afraid. If you want improvement, you really need to go the Z32 rear brake and BMC route...

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You aren't seriously going to get a miricle improvement from the back, regardless what pads you use, I'm afraid. If you want improvement, you really need to go the Z32 rear brake and BMC route...

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I'll just be happy if the rears last more than a few track days after the EBC experience!

I'm using EuroX from Endless, the compound is more leaning toward racetrack then street but i found mine to be very comfortable(no squeking nois, except for a hell lot of dust). With the rear i reccomend running a set of NA-R then your brake should balance out.

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I'm using EuroX from Endless, the compound is more leaning toward racetrack then street but i found mine to be very comfortable(no squeking nois, except for a hell lot of dust). With the rear i reccomend running a set of NA-R then your brake should balance out.

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have you used NA brake pads?
Was offered to have a set of NA-P for cheap and testing purposes.
they're supposed to be pretty good.

Yakozan said:

Speed Demo said:

I'm using EuroX from Endless, the compound is more leaning toward racetrack then street but i found mine to be very comfortable(no squeking nois, except for a hell lot of dust). With the rear i reccomend running a set of NA-R then your brake should balance out.

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have you used NA brake pads?
Was offered to have a set of NA-P for cheap and testing purposes.
they're supposed to be pretty good.

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NA series brake pads is very good if you use it for street purpose only. The EuroX is basicly between the NA series and the full race spec MA series.